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-- in the whole mess was pete williams from nbc. and this really changed the dynamics here, because breaking news always turned to cnn, because msnbc, they don't have a news association, they just have talkers, but they have got nbc behind them. they have peter williams and other people out there, and at a time like this, i knew because when i was working at msnbc, we did the same thing, so you turn to your nbc people who are just about the best in the business. there are some good people at abc too, but nobody came close to pete williams and he was the guy that had it right every time. and nbc, their rule inside was we're not reporting anything until pete says it is okay. and he by the way was trending on twitter. >> oh, yeah jand it shoots holes right into cnn's argument that their sources were wrong. there were sources that were right, and pete williams had them. >> bill: yeah, now look they did a good job in getting the word out, the photographs of the -- of the suspects of the terrorists, they put them out there responsibly, but it was beforehand when they were ju
. they tried to blame the sources. other people had sources that john miller and cbs -- >> bill: pete williams -- >> at nbc. >> he nailed it yesterday. >> bill: he did. they both had sources. they both were saying no suspect. no arrest. don't believe it! >> they had a woman on air with them yesterday who kept saying i think we should slow down on this. i'm not sure that's really happening. julie, juliet from massachusetts. she kept trying to walk them back and they kept saying no, no no, we've got this. >> bill: they had francis townsend, national security, going right along with john king. >> it was a mess. >> bill: 13 minutes after the hour. congresswoman karen bass from california coming along a little bit later here to join jamal simmons and me. but first -- >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> other headlines making news on this thursday, former senator richard lugar just call him sir richard lugar. the indiana republican was knighted at the british embassy in washington yesterday. according to the hill, under the direction of the queen to become an honorary knight commander o
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